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that they are not going to cut taxes in way that willed a to the deficit, and i'll bet they are also claim that they are not going to raise taxes on the middle class, but they'll give the middle class a tax break. all of those lies we have heard before. and obamacare is a big government program. i don't think joe can be too aggressive. he doesn't have to be obnoxious. that's not his style anyhow. but he has to take on every single one of those. the other thing i think is is important for joe biden, i believe, that he has got to remember, that this is not for him. nobody is going to vote for him or paul ryan. if you are going to vote for just joe biden or paul ryan. if you want to vote for paul ryan and joe biden, you can't do that. it's not about paul or joe, it's about barack obama and mitt romney. and joe biden has to keep bringing it back to the fundamental choices. move forward with obama or move backward with mitt romney. i think joe has to make that point over and over and over again. and then i think it is important for us to realize that in the past there have
is not going to add to the deficit. so how are you going together cut that $5 trillion in revenue, mitt romney, well, he says i'm going to get rid of pbs. somebody quickly did the math what is $435 million, what percentage is that of $5 trillion. it's a joke. a joke. sick joke. ronnie is calling from phoenix, arizona. >> caller: good morning, how are you doing? >> bill: good. >> caller: my question is i was a voter back in 2008. i voted for obama at that time. my question is i'm kind of baffled -- i don't understand that mr. romney came out and basically said a lot of stuff that didn't relate to what he was actually talking about. so the point is now -- the media where are they so not calling the thanks he stated the things he should have said i'm going to have that $5 trillion tax cut. i understand that obama had a bad debate, didn't do what he was supposed to do but mr. romney lied. >> bill: you are absolutely right. again, i compared romney's debate performance to the ryan speech in tampa. it was a good performance but it was packed with lies. i think the entire m
, but no taxes that will contribute to the deficit? >> yeah. that one stuck out, especially since you can go right back to the primary campaign and when he was debating newt gingrich and rick santorum and the rest of the crew, he said hey wait a second, i'm going to reduce taxes by 20% across the board including the top 1%. that was his line. and the other thing that really stuck out is this issue of preexisting conditions when he looks into the camera and says hey, my plan does cover preexisting conditions. well that is just not true. it doesn't cover preexisting conditions for people who haven't had insurance before, which is a big part of the problem, literally millions and millions of people who would not be covered under his plan. >> bill: the one that really disappointed me to say the least, three times he came back to president obama has cut medicare benefits by $716 billion. >> yeah well there's -- there are a number of problems with that, starting with that it's not true. it's -- what he has done is they found savings on the provider side, so if you are a m
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